[[logical tea party]]

• 2pm

Call series about [[distributed press]] and related topics

• [[hypha coop]] call with [[Paul Frazee]]
• 8am
• https://link.hypha.coop/compost-calls
• https://github.com/hyphacoop/distributed-press-organizing/issues/39
• Call topics:
  • [[unwalled.garden]]
    • questions
      • how is this similar to/different than [[ctzn]]
  • [[social api]]
    • [[matters.news]]
  • [[indieweb]]

Attendees

[[flancian]]

[[vera]]

[[Paul Frazee]]

[[benhylau]]

• gateways can censor content

[[guo]]

• looking at [[ipfs]] or [[hypercore]]
• [[webmentions]] [[microformats]]

[[sutty]]

[[fauno]]

[[ipfs gateways]]

[[Paul Frazee]]

• say you’re [[twitter]], 1000 users.
• 1000 users only one using service but having to pay for storage/bandwidth of 1000 poor scaling properties
• gateway not feasible model
• what are the costs
• magic of the mesh
• serverless clients participate in network

[[guo]]

• gateways become the point of failure in a distributed network

[[flancian]]

• subsidies gateway not for profit

  [[beaker]]

social network on beaker

got discouraged with social networks

• came back

people wanna be able to share around links

didn’t have push messaging system

take advantage of social graph

ux killer

• people expect to get notifcations from people
• people need to follow out of band
• limited push message
• aggregator service notifications

  • really close to running gateway, running a service

  • let’s just use services

  • take your data and move to other "place"

    [[minimum viable exchange format]]

all these technologies converge into this

[[indieweb]]

[[microformats]]

[[minimal social graph]]

• [[guo]]
  • can be [[ipfs]] can be [[dat]]
  • have to have an aggregator, how do you know if there’s new content
  • how do you do search
  • separate data aggregator and host
• [[flancian]]
  • [[underlay project]]
• [[Paul Frazee]]
  • [[data mesh]]
    • basically function like database
      • way for semantic
      • tables in there with universal ide (url based to find schema)
      • universal global data mesh, with global semantics
      • [[governance of the commons]]
• [[guo]]

  • if we can determine ownership we can help with [[governance]] issue

  • if it’s my data, there is no [[governance]] issue

    [[commons mesh]]

how do you end up in a situation where [[governance]] is required

what are defaults

sign up for first time, what’s being suggested

[[fatal ambiguity]]