# 20211003 - Marx believed that the basis of value was social and not concrete, unlike prior thinkers - fetishism shows that there’s more to the world than what is directly observable, and it must be overcome. fetishism could be seen as a critique of empiricism, you need more than empirical research to understand what’s going on - it is more important to be a communist than a marxist - the law of value is operating in china - the Soviet union and China have turned out to not be emancipatory projects - taking state power is only the first step, and any communist movement that holds power for its own sake is not a liberatory one - those who say that china is communist because the bourgeoisie do are on the same side as the bourgeoisie. this attitude does not say anything worthwhile