# Are dialectics useful? [[Marx]], in his writings, frequently refers to [[dialectics]] in some form or another. This is something he inherits from [[Hegel]], and some would argue something he developed out of [[idealism]] in to [[dialectical materialism]]. Some see Marx’s dialectics as the key to understanding not only Marx but the secret key to understanding everything, that dialectics are the thing Marx used to produce his profound insights on [[capitalism]]. Some might say that [[dialectics]] is the first grasp at something like [[systems thinking]]. [[Engels]] says in [[Anti-Dühring]] that there is a need for a new dialectical science, and this could have been the first grasp at something like systems theory, and that a science of systems would surpass the need for an understanding of dialectics. Often, Marx’s “dialectics” usually describe a mutual interdependence.